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Keykeypie
11-04-2006, 07:42 AM
the California Raids (http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/11/03/18326114.php)

Keykeypie
11-04-2006, 07:45 AM
this is what Pam has to say about her house being raided:

From: Pamelyn [mailto:pamelyn@pamelynferdin.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:33 AM
To: Pamelyn

Subject: Our Home Raided!
Six unmarked cars carrying eight plain clothes, who apparently included the Santa Monica Police Department, along with FBI and other law enforcement, invaded our home October 31st. I was participating with other activists in a demonstration at UCLA against the horrific and evil primate vivisection taking place there, and Jerry was working. The coppers and feds apparently (via the little our neighbor's could tell us) rummaged through our home and garage for a little over three hours and stole some of our belongings (one of which was the large four foot stuffed dog that attaches to a wooden cross, and is the mascot we carry around at many of the Stop The Killing protests.) That was really, really low. What do they need a large stuffed animal with red paint coming down from where he is supposed to be nailed to a cross to symbolize the suffering and death of the innocent? But another of the many unanswered questions we have is . . . . .
WHY DID THEY LEAVE OUR TOILET SEATS UP?!!

Yep; I make sure to leave the toilet seats down when I leave the house, and after I got home and surveyed the damage, I noticed that not one but BOTH toilets, had been used and the feds didn't even have the courtesy to leave the seats down the way they found them after peeing!
Now THAT was discourteous, don't ya think? Next time they visit, the LEAST they can do, is to put the seats back down after using our bathrooms!!

The bottom line for Jerry and I personally, is that any one of those animals inside UCLA or HLS, or our city animal "shelters", on factory farms, or the other evil and exploitive animal torture and Death Camps, would trade with us in a second. Being raided is not the worst thing that can happen to a person and in no way can it ever compare to the agony, torture and murder the animals go through every single day in this country.

Luckily for me (and YOU ALL), none of you have to worry about your e-mails or names being discovered since the police will not even be able to open up my computer when they get it to the po--po station. Everything is encrypted for just this type of event. There are too many sources who need protection (like those courageous inside sources at the city Death Camps who tell me and other volunteers with ADL-LA important info), NOT to not have you and everyone else I correspond with completely protected. Like I always like to say, we were born at night but NOT last night!

We actually suspected that this illegal home invasion may possibly happen to us, ever since Jerry decided (along with Lindy Greene who was also raided that day) and a few other brave activists, to accept the roles of press officers with the North American Animal Liberation Press Office (NAALPO) in 2004. They realized that some individuals within our movement had to take on the task (and were being asked to take it on) of being a press source to the mainstream media, in order to explain the actions, philosophy and history of those activists who go underground for the animals. Ironically, the ones who are above ground activists are currently being targeted, and in this political climate, it appears that doing underground actions is actually a lot safer these days than engaging in legal above ground protests!!!

But our movement and the ANIMALS NEED US ALL, and we cannot let this effect us in the least. In fact, this actually makes me MORE determined to continue protesting in the streets, because obviously we are being effective. "You only feel the chains when you begin to MOVE!"

The most important thing to us personally regarding the specifics of our home invasion and robbery, is that our animals are safe; and they are. I'm glad that my smallest dog didn't fall into the toilet after they left the seats up; but I suspect that he was secretly very happy to have such easy access to water with some urine mixed in! YUM!!!

It didn't take us long to be up and running again, and we needed to upgrade our computers anyway; so why not look upon this as making lemonade out of lemons?

I hope this doesn't scare anyone out there because it should NOT. I'm sure glad I had everything including my address book backed up off premises, so I'm up and running!!!

Seriously though, we must not allow this to chill our freedoms to take to the street for the animals. In fact, we all should make a new and even stronger commitment to the animals. Their BODIES and their very souls are being invaded every day in the most terrible ways imaginable; and as those activists in the UK and Europe have taught me, "This is just part of the process." They live with even more restrictive freedoms to protest, yet they continue to kick ass and turn up at demo's in the thousands.

Jerry and I have never had our home robbed before, and of course it is telling that we were robbed by those working for our corrupt government. How apropos?

So, it may take me a while to get back to you because I have a LOT of things to go through, rearrange and try to find in the mess they left.
To those activists here in LA, (and especially those who were raided as well,) let's survey the damage and then get back to work PRONTO, with even MORE conviction and determination. In the UK, AR activists get raided so often, they get USED to it and treat it as an inevitability of being animal activists in a country without a Constitution. Well, the USA may now be entering the phase of a POST CONSTITUTIONAL AMERIKA! But the animals are STILL in the same horrific situations, so let's keep focused and see you ALL out at the next demo.

Pamelyn

Gliondrach
11-04-2006, 09:27 AM
Can't they keep their address secret and operate through a post office box?Too late now but anyone else thinking of doing the same job should consider it, especially as the criminally corrupt authorities will use all the powers they have to target these people.

thevegantwins
11-04-2006, 10:35 AM
I think Pam is mistaken regarding her belief that the Feds won't be able to access her computer because its encrypted. They can get into anything.

The constitution does not exist anymore except for those in power.

Fauxmage
11-04-2006, 06:02 PM
At the risk of the following statement sounding like a threat (NOT!!!!), it seems to me that if they try to stop people from legally, non-violently, and peacefully protesting animal abuse, they will be left with an increasing level of violent and illegal actions. Its like outlawing abortion. You won't stop abortion, you'll just make it more dangerous.

Obviously companies are feeling the effects in their profit margins, though, or they wouldn't be purchasing rent-a-cops and rent-a-politicians to deal with these decent, law-abiding protestors.

A woman gets raped every thirty seconds in this country, and the police waste their time looking through someone's underwear drawers. Nicer work than busting meth labs, obviously.

Oracl
11-04-2006, 10:55 PM
Its like outlawing abortion. You won't stop abortion, you'll just make it more dangerous.
So true. :(

thevegantwins
11-05-2006, 12:04 PM
At the risk of the following statement sounding like a threat (NOT!!!!), it seems to me that if they try to stop people from legally, non-violently, and peacefully protesting animal abuse, they will be left with an increasing level of violent and illegal actions. Its like outlawing abortion. You won't stop abortion, you'll just make it more dangerous.

Obviously companies are feeling the effects in their profit margins, though, or they wouldn't be purchasing rent-a-cops and rent-a-politicians to deal with these decent, law-abiding protestors.

A woman gets raped every thirty seconds in this country, and the police waste their time looking through someone's underwear drawers. Nicer work than busting meth labs, obviously.
Excellent points (as usual) Faux.

I can't get this mental image out of my head. One of my friends, the president of a animal rights organization, was sentenced recently due to alleged illegal activity. Ignoring the fact that she had videotaped proof that she did not break the law, during sentencing, the prosecutor announced that she was the head of the state's largest fascist organization. :confused: :dizzy:

I gather the prosecutor did not know the definition of fascism and all these fuckwits in the legal profession in NJ who are so worried about the SHAC 7 holding up signs in front of HLS or people looking for injured bears in the woods during the annual murder spree probably don't care much that NJ has 5 states in the top 20 for most crime-ridden. :tantrum: :hbang:

Fauxmage
11-05-2006, 12:54 PM
One of my friends, the president of a animal rights organization, was sentenced recently due to alleged illegal activity.
What's going to happen to her vegantwins? :( :( :(

thevegantwins
11-05-2006, 05:13 PM
She was sentenced to 40 days in jail but her appeal is ongoing as we speak. She's a 50-something year old married, employed nurse. Certainly no threat to the establishment. She has a wonderful outlook though, she said she's going to become a hardbody if she does any jail time.

Fauxmage
11-05-2006, 05:46 PM
That's horrible. I hope she gets out of it. 40 days is a long enough time, though its not as bad as I'd thought.

paul
11-05-2006, 05:49 PM
She was sentenced to 40 days in jail but her appeal is ongoing as we speak. She's a 50-something year old married, employed nurse. Certainly no threat to the establishment. She has a wonderful outlook though, she said she's going to become a hardbody if she does any jail time.
:no: :tantrum: thats disgracefull :rollingpin: :grumble:

Oracl
11-05-2006, 09:16 PM
Yes, it is. :(

Gliondrach
11-06-2006, 06:06 AM
All the more reason to be extra careful. The Servants of Evil are everywhere.

Phoenix
11-07-2006, 01:06 AM
At the risk of the following statement sounding like a threat (NOT!!!!), it seems to me that if they try to stop people from legally, non-violently, and peacefully protesting animal abuse, they will be left with an increasing level of violent and illegal actions.
I couldn't agree more, Fauxmage. Likewise, that's NOT a threat - merely an observation of human nature.