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Fauxmage
10-28-2006, 10:32 PM
Then here is where you can get your protein:


Food - Protein Content in Grams (g)

Bread, white - 2.05g
Bread, whole wheat - 2.72g
Bread, rye - 2.72g
Bread, pumpernickel - 2.78g
Bread, oatmeal - 2.27g
Bread, Italian - 1.76g
Bread, French (1/2 inch slice) - 2.2g
Baked potato (7oz) - 8.7g
Potatoes, boiled, in skin (136g) - 2.54g
Potatoes, baked, flesh only (156g) - 3.06g
Potatoes, baked, flesh & skin (202g) - 5.05g
Potatoes, hash browns, frozen, 1 cup - 3.78g
Potato salad, 1 cup - 6.7g
Potatoes, french fried, 10 strips - 1.59g
Dried apples, (5 rings) - 0.3g
Dried apricots, (10 halves) - 1.19g
Dates, (5) - 0.82g
Figs, (2) - 1.16g
Prunes, (5) - 1.1g
Raisins, (1 cup) - 4.67g
Apple juice, unsweetened - 0.15g
Grape juice - 1.42g
Grapefruit juice - 1.28g
Orange juice - 1.47g
Pineapple juice - 0.8g
Prune juice - 1.56g
Tangerine juice, sweetened - 1.25g
Apple - 0.26g
Apricot - 0.49g
Banana - 1.22g
Blackberries (1 cup) - 1.04g
Blueberries (1 cup) - 0.97g
Cherries, sweet, raw (10) - 0.82g
Grapefruit, pink (1/2) - 0.68g
Grapefruit, white (1/2) - 0.81g
Grapes (1 cup) - 1.06g
Kiwi fruit - 0.75g
Mango - 1.06g
Melon (1 cup) - 1.41g
Orange - 1.23g
Papaya - 1.85g
Peach - 0.69g
Pear - 0.61g
Barley, pearled, raw - 19.82g
Buckwheat flour - 15.14g
Buckwheat, groats, roasted - 5.68g
Bulgur, dry - 17.21g
Cornmeal - 11.7g
Cornmeal, self-raising - 11.61g
Couscous, dry - 22.07g
Oatbran, dry - 16.26g
Wheat flour, white, self raising - 12.36g
Wheat flour, whole grain - 16.44g
Alfalfa seeds, 1 cup - 1.32g
Pumpkin seeds, 1oz - 9.35g
Sesame seeds, 1 tablespoon - 2.55g
Sunflower seeds, 1oz - 5.48g
Squash seeds, 1oz - 9.35g
Artichokes - 5.85g
Asparagus - 5.31g
Beet Greens - 3.7g
Beets - 2.86g
Broccoli - 4.65g
Brussels sprouts - 5.64g
Cabbage, green - 1.53g
Cabbage, red, raw - 0.97g
Carrots - 1.7g
Cauliflower 2.9g
Celery - 1.25g
Corn - 4.45g
Eggplant (aubergine) - 0.82g
Lettuce - 0.91g
Mushrooms - 3.39g
Onions - 2.86
Parsnips - 2.06g
Peas, green, frozen - 8.24g
Peas, split - 16.3
Spinach - 5.97
Tomatoes - 1.53g
Vegetables, mixed, frozen - 5.21g
Leeks - 0.84

Every whole food in the plant kingdom has protein, fat, and carbohydrate in it.
Some of the largest mammals in the world are herbivores, like elephants, giraffes, buffalo, etc. They get all the protein they need from PLANTS!!! :yea:

Protein Needs - US Guidelines on Protein and Diet

The Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) of protein according to U.S. government standards is 0.8 gram per kilogram (2.2 pounds) of ideal body weight for the adult. This protein RDA is said to meet 97.5% of the population's needs.


It is almost impossible to suffer from protein deficiency, unless you are in the midst of a famine. So even if you are allergic to all forms of "vegan" protein, you still will get plenty if you eat a varied diet. Something to remember, expecially for folks who are mesmerized by Atkins, is that while the body stores excess dietary carbohydrate as glycogen, and both excess dietary carbohydrate and dietary fat as body fat, there is no mechanism for the storage of excess dietary protein. Too much protein will damage the kidneys, and eventually lead to the growth of tumors. Most benign tumors are the body's way of coping with dietary protein overload. The only reason people are obsessed with making sure they get enough protein in their diets is because the meat industry wants to make sure there is a market for what they are selling. Don't listen to them!

Oracl
10-29-2006, 12:31 AM
Thanks Fauxmage. A very useful list. :agree:

Gliondrach
10-29-2006, 08:16 AM
Yes, great list. We all get enough protein.

Keykeypie
10-29-2006, 08:49 AM
Too much protein will damage the kidneys, and eventually lead to the growth of tumors. Most benign tumors are the body's way of coping with dietary protein overload. The only reason people are obsessed with making sure they get enough protein in their diets is because the meat industry wants to make sure there is a market for what they are selling. Don't listen to them![/SIZE][/FONT]

OF COURSE I WON'T LISTEN TO "THEM" I just never worried about "am I getting enough of whatever"
but OMG.....my mother was just the opposit....vitimins for this & that..she
had a whole tray full she used to take every day. She was kinda a health food nut.......why, I don't really understand.
She outlived her wonderful boyfriend & and all her other friends......living
to almost 90 & in good health but very miserable because everyone she loved had died years ago.

Funny......I'm paranoid about stuff like safty & fire....but health? Nah....
I just don't worry about it.......still, it's nice to read we're not likely to get kidney damage or tumors.:)

Fauxmage
10-29-2006, 09:52 AM
Don't worry Keykeypie! This is the section of the forum for folks who aren't vegan, and have questions. The above was inspired by a probable troll on another forum who claimed to be allergic to all vegan sources of protein (uh huh :rolleyes: ) and wanted to know how to get enough in their diet if they refused to eat beans, nuts, or soy foods.

Keykeypie
10-29-2006, 11:48 AM
Don't worry Keykeypie! This is the section of the forum for folks who aren't vegan

Oh oh......folks who aren't vegan?:eek:

Lemmme outa here....:wave:

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Bowwowmeow
01-28-2008, 07:12 PM
Boy, 6, With Rare Allergy Can Eat Only Deer Meat

NEW HAVEN, Conn. — A 6-year-old Plainville, Conn., boy is suffering from a rare food allergy and deer meat is the only solid protein the boy can stomach, according to his family.

Timmy Armstrong has eosinophilic esophagitis, a condition in which food allergies trigger an intense inflammation of the esophagus, according to a report from WTNH News Channel 8.

In addition to venison, Timmy is able to stomach small amounts of natural oats, salt and sugar, according to his father, Tim Armstrong Sr. Timmy is fed through a tube.

The disease is relatively new but on the rise, so doctors do not know what the long-term effects will be. Dr. Jeffrey Hyams at the Connecticut Children's Medical Center told WTNH that the disorder has become widespread in the last 10 to 15 years and that doctors are seeing an average of two new cases a week.
Now, I can see how a person could destroy their ability to resist allergic reactions by eating the same foods over and over again until the body rebels. This is often how food allergies develop. In combination with a weak immune system, your body gets sensitized to foods eaten often, until there is nothing left you can eat except something you have never eaten before.

Hence, this child's ability to digest dead deer.

The problems I see, are these:
Deer are ungulates, and therefore related to other animals killed and eaten by humans like cows, goats, and sheep, so this child's ability to digest dead deer flesh is not going to last. He will most likely become allergic to it too, as food allergies to one type of food, like oranges, mean you also should avoid lemons, limes, and grapefruits, even if they do not cause as extreme a reaction as oranges.

Also, why did the doctor and parents stop at deer meat? Its too convenient, in my view, that this child is able to digest the dead bodies of those our own culture approves of as acceptable human "food". Why did the doctor not test the flesh of cats and dogs? There are plenty of dog and cat corpses being produced by kill shelters that are sold as ingredients for pet food, so its not like there isn't any dog and cat corpse available.

But lets leave no stone unturned in our quest for the health and lives of people with this disease. Why not test the corpses of rats? No one in the USA eats rat corpse on a regular basis, so there is not the slightest chance that a person would ever develop an allergic reaction to it. How about blowfly maggots? Or leeches?

Or, how about the ultimate necrotarian taboo, human flesh? If these parents think its is ok to kill others for the sake of their own children, why stop at human flesh? There are plenty of aborted human fetuses being produced by abortion clinics every day.

That's why I think the "he can only eat deer meat" excuse is bogus. I feel sorry for the kid, and his folks. But they are making emotion based decisions. Understandable ones, of course, but not ethical ones. A good doctor would go way beyond stopping at some kind of corpse to feed this sick child, especially when it is well known that excess protein particles are the building blocks for histamine, and protein should be reduced in the diet of anyone suffering from allergic reactions to food, whether they are allergic to that particular protein or not.

Gliondrach
01-29-2008, 05:03 PM
The only things mentioned that he is supposed to be able to eat are deer meat, oats, salt and sugar. Unless he gets nutrients in pill form be won't live very long.

Bowwowmeow
01-29-2008, 05:52 PM
Hopefully he's getting some kind of intravenous drip, or they are using his skin for absorption of topical vitamins.

I'll bet anything they haven't tried, or probably even heard of, amaranth, millet, or quinoa, which they should be rotating with the oats at the very least, or using raw, evaporated cane juice instead of sugar, which at least has its original mineral content.

If his parents were seeing any other kind of health professional besides this medical doctor, they would probably be going to jail for child abuse. But this quack is approved by the AMA, so when the child dies he won't be held responsible. He'll be regarded as a hero who did everything possible to keep the child alive. :hbang:

my3labs
01-29-2008, 08:31 PM
This is really disheartening, BWM. It's sad to know that the medical community does absolutely nothing to actually help people. They settle on the quick fix with no regard to long term health and well-being.
You're right...this guy's a quack. But, so are the parents for not investigating further dietary options for their son.

my3labs
01-29-2008, 08:33 PM
A good doctor would go way beyond stopping at some kind of corpse to feed this sick child, especially when it is well known that excess protein particles are the building blocks for histamine, and protein should be reduced in the diet of anyone suffering from allergic reactions to food, whether they are allergic to that particular protein or not.


I have a friend that's allergic to many foods. I'm curious if you have some links to this info?

Bowwowmeow
01-30-2008, 06:55 PM
No links. :o
I've got a few food allergy books I need to locate, but meanwhile, from "Depression-Free, Naturally" by Joan Matthews Larson, Ph.D., there is a passage about the amino acid histidine, found in the diet, that is what histamine is made from:
Page 228
"Avoid a high-protein diet, as most proteins contain histidine, the amino acid from which you will synthesize even more histamine. A preferable diet is one high in vegetables and fruits."

This just seems like much better advice than taking antihistamines whenever a person's allergies kick up.