Dog not well please read i need help ):

[VeganD]

my face is filled with sadness ): today i took my dog to the vet they said she has cancer this is now the 3rd time each time costing £500 around $1000 to be removed but this time they said its gone to far and there little they can do about it

They say its not fair for me to put her through this again i am so confused about it all they want me to get her put down what gives me the right to make that decision i am just her keeper not her owner

If we dont get her put down she will die soon the cancer has spread all over her body with little chance even if money was no question they said its a big operation and one that will put her at risk because she has had it before and also because of her age

We also have her daughter and son how do i explain to them what i am about to do? i feel i have no right to do this but i dont want her to die when her lugs fill with fluid

always so quick to want to put an animal down but when its a human they like to string us out

[Bowwowmeow]

:( :( :(
I don't know what to say, except that you have my sympathy and understanding. I've never had to put an animal to sleep, and I feel the way you do about it. I can't say what I would do until the time came, and the animal really was in extreme pain. I don't take it lightly, deciding to kill an animal, as some people do, especially people who say "its only an animal". But I hope I would be able to do what was right for the animal, and I am sure that you will too, just because you are thinking so hard about it, and it is causing you such agony. Its not easy for me to say "put her to sleep" or "don't, just let nature take its course", because sometimes nature causes so much pain and suffering. But I also think, for the sake of the animal, that what looks like suffering to me may not be for her, and that makes it hard, because I would worry about whether I had her put to sleep to spare myself the sight of her suffering, rather than to spare her.

I'm just rambling now, and you probably shouldn't consider this as advice. Its very complicated for me. But whatever you decide, know that I am sure you are thinking of what is best for her, and that you have the support of everyone here. The rest of your furry family know you love her, and them, and they know you will do your best to do what is right for them all. :hug:

[Tails4wagging]

Over the 43 yrs of dog companions I have had to make that decision many times to let them go.

Usually the dog asks me to let them go. In other words you can see just by looking at them, they have had enough.

Its a difficult decision, but you must let her go with dignity and be painfree.

Ideally let the vet come to you and when its time for the jab, let her son and daughter be there as well. Let them say goodbye in their own way and that way they will accept it.

Be Brave you will be doing her a big favour and if you love her (which Im sure you do) let her go in your arms.

[my3labs]

VeganD,
I'm so sorry to hear this. I know how difficult it is to make this kind of decision. As BWM said, sometimes what we see as suffering may not in fact be suffering for your dog. I'm not saying that it is or isn't, just that it's difficult for us humans to determine. Ultimately you'll have to make the decision that feels right for you, and only you.
Take time to think about it, don't make a rash decision based on your vet's recommendation. They are NOT gods and do not always know what's right. Is there anything they can do for her to make her comfortable until she passes naturally?
If you decide to put her down (I hate that term), try to find someone that will come to your house. I can't imagine having to do it, let alone having it done at a vet's office. In Seattle there are vets that will come to your home to do it. At least it's more comforting for the animal to be in a familiar environment when the time comes.
Hugs to you in this difficult time. :comfort:

[Gliondrach]

My thoughts are with you, VeganD.

Is she showing any signs of pain? She must be showing some sign of something or you wouldn't have taken her to the vet. But does she seem to be in pain?

I tend to agree with what Tails wrote - that you mustn't let her suffer and that releasing her from pain would be best. But only if she is in pain. And only if she would suffer by being kept here. The only way you can know what to do is to think from her point of view. You know her best and know what she would want.

[thevegantwins]

So sorry, VeganD. It is a horrible, heart-wrenching decision to make, knowing our loved furfamily is suffering and having to let them go. My thoughts are with you. :comfort:

[Soynut]

I'm SO SORRY VeganD, it's an awful situation to be in. I have a dog myself and I've thought about "that day" too and there are two very important things I will consider: it must be done to avoid prolonged pain and suffering, and it must take place at home surrounded by loved ones. That's the way I can imagine I would have wanted it if I was a dog. I'm not afraid of death, but terrified by even the thought of pain.

The only advice I can give is that you use your intuition - you know your dog and I think you'll be able to see when it's time like tailswagging mentioned.

Lots of HUGS and LOVE to you and your pooch.:smallheart: My thoughts are with your whole family.

[Phoenix]

My heart goes out to you. :comfort: I have had to make the decision to euthanize a pet more than once - always because of a horrendous injury, so the decision was more clear-cut.

For what it's worth, I believe in euthanasia for humans and other animals. When the pain and suffering makes life unbearable, it's time to let them go in peace, and with love.

Life is sacred - but not at any cost. If you get my meaning. (I'm not talking about money.)

[paul]

:comfort::grouphug2:I can only repeat what everyone else has said.
my thoughts are with you and your family

[Oracl]

Yes, I can't really add anything worthwhile. :shakehead: I am thinking of you at this difficult time. :sorry: :comfort: :hug:

[Gliondrach]

How is she, VeganD?

[dreamer]

I'm sorry too, VeganD. I haven't been faced with that decision yet, though I have lost animals and my parents have put a couple to sleep (so not my decision). I just think of what their old vet said, if the animal is obviously in pain or having trouble breathing, it will be fairly obvious, especially in going off food. If it gets to that point, it probably would be better for the animal to put her out of misery. But I know that's easy to say and hard to consider.

:(:comfort:

[VeganD]

Thanks for the kind words

took her to another vet thought i would get a 2nd opinion they said the same thing its gone to far and she is now starting to suffer and shes now starting to find it harder to breathe and her back legs are starting to shake

Thanks for the kind suggestion of letting them come to the home that was a really good idea

sad to say tomorrow they are coming to put her to sleep i cant believe i will sit aside when someone kills my dog i have so many mixed feelings about it all

i really don’t want her to suffer but i also don’t want to be the one to take her life

This time tomorrow she will be gone

We have had her for around 15 years

When they come to put her to sleep i am going to leave her body with her babies for a while just so they can understand whats happened i dont think its right just to take her away without them really knowing

[dreamer]

I'm so sorry, VeganD. I think it's a good idea to let her babies grieve with her. I think our furbabies need closure just as we do. I'm sure your baby will understand that you are releasing her from suffering:comfort:

[thevegantwins]

I agree with dreamer. I'm sorry, VeganD. I cried for weeks after I had to put my dog, Archie to sleep. Even if you know it is time, it is never an easy decision. :comfort:

[Bowwowmeow]

:bmoon: :bmoon: :bmoon:
We have had her for around 15 years
That's a good long life VeganD.

When they come to put her to sleep i am going to leave her body with her babies for a while just so they can understand whats happened i dont think its right just to take her away without them really knowing
I think that is a very loving idea. I've seen many animals grieve over the loss of their furry loved ones, and I'm not just imagining it. They will feel very sad, just like you.

[Gliondrach]

I'm so sorry, VeganD. What's her name? She is obviously well loved and will know that she is loved.

For what it's worth, I'll be thinking of you all tomorrow. Take heart in knowing that you are doing the best you can for her.

When my darling Mandy went, over 30 years ago, I slept that night on the floor near her. My mother did, too. It felt the right thing to do.

[Phoenix]

My thoughts will be with you all tomorrow, VeganD. :comfort:

[my3labs]

I'm so sorry VeganD. We're all here for you if you need us.
Much love to you and your family.

[Tails4wagging]

If I should be that I grow frail and weak,
And pain should keep me from my sleep,
Then you must do what must be done
for this, the last battle can't be won.
You will be sad - I understand
Dont let your grief then stay your hand
For this day, more than all the rest
Your love and friendship stand the test.
We've had so many happy years
What is to come can hold no fears,
You'd not want me to suffer so,
When the time comes, please let me go.
Take me to where my needs they'll tend
Only stay with me until the end
And hold me firm and speak to me
Until my eyes no longer see
I know in time you too will see
It is a kindness you do to me
Although my tail its last has moved
From pain and suffering I've been saved.
Dont grieve that it should be you
Who has to decide this thing you do.
We've been so close, we two, these years...
Don't let your heart hold any tears.

Anon

[Oracl]

I'm so sorry, VeganD. :(

[Gliondrach]

I hope VeganD is bearing up. Losing a loved one is terrible. You've been in my thoughts often today, VeganD. I hope you find the strength you need.

[VeganD]

they are coming out tomorrow morning to do it i am sorry to say but i couldn’t let her go i wanted a few more days with her i am in tears and all messed up about it

It’s so hard to let her go but tomorrow i will do it because she is getting bad and i cant put it off any more its just not fair to her

Thanks to all for support

I didn’t want to put her in the cold ground so i brought some wood and made her a box to go in with cloth inside to keep her warm

[Soynut]

It's so sad, VeganD, but it's much better for her and you that she'll be put asleep at home and not in a hospital. I will be thinking about you tomorrow.:smallheart::comfort:

[Soynut]

I didn’t want to put her in the cold ground so i brought some wood and made her a box to go in with cloth inside to keep her warm

So sweet.... every dog should have a loving family member like you.

[Gliondrach]

That's a good idea about the box, VeganD.

[thevegantwins]

So sweet.... every dog should have a loving family member like you.

Agreed. You were one special human to your dog, VeganD. You obviously love her deeply and that's what really matters.

[my3labs]

:comfort:

[Phoenix]

Ditto to what has already been said.

[Gliondrach]

I hope VeganD's all right.

[Oracl]

Me too.

[paul]

So sorry for your loss,try to rember the good times.
Take care.

[VeganD]

Its almost 3 weeks since she has gone its so sad still hard to believe i just cant get my head around it so i try not to think about it

As i am typing this she is under the cold ground it seems so wrong i always want to get her back out again because it just doesnt seem right

the vet came about 11:55 just before 12:00 there were two of them to be honest i am really pissed off about the whole thing one of them got really pissed at her because she wouldn’t keep still i was crying all over the place don’t these fucks understand she was scared i mean she had two strangers come in hold her and give her an injection but she didn’t want to sit still because she was really scared

So now my memories of her are the last 30 seconds was the fucking vet being ruff with her like i said there were two of them one was ok but the other one seem like it was just a job with no emotion at all

I was pretty close to lashing out on her but i didn’t as one was holding her tight around the neck the other one gave the injection 10 seconds later she was gone

I left her on the bed for around 7 hours hoping she would come back she was just laying there not moving with her eyes open it just didn’t seem real i still cant believe it she’s gone just like that

She will always be remembered

As i said i made her a box to put her in the last thing i wanted was her going in the cold ground without something to keep her warm i put a blanket around her



Thank you for all your kind words and support, you guys on here are better then some of the friends i have in real life most people just think its just a dog and you can just get over it but that’s not the case she was part of our life for around 15 years


Her babies walk around with their head down they know something is wrong they miss her so much


thank you to paul and Gliondrach who took the time to write me a message it was really nice to have a message of support

thank you for that


RIP


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[Bowwowmeow]

It makes me really sad to read this VeganD. I know this feeling very well:
...i always want to get her back out again because it just doesnt seem right
It sure doesn't. :(

[my3labs]

VeganD....
What can I say? I'm sure you are devastated and there are no words that I could say to comfort you. I'm so sorry.

[Oracl]

I'm so sorry, VeganD. :sorry: :(

[thevegantwins]

I'm so sorry, VeganD. Losing a great friend like her is devastating. Unfortunately, not all vets seem to care for animals like one would expect them to.

Hugs to you and your family.

[Soynut]

I was crying as I was reading your last post, VeganD..... it's so sad to lose a beloved longtime friend like that. She must have been a wonderful dog with lots of love in her life.
I think I would need therapy after my have passed away, I'm not kidding either. He's one of my closest friends. So I understand what you are going through, my heart goes out to you.:comfort:

Unfortunately when it comes to loss of pets, many people don't have the same understanding and we feel so alone in our grief. I lost a dog at the age of 12 and it's still one of the worst thing that have ever happened to me.

Would you feel comfortable posting a picture of her? Maybe later on....

[thevegantwins]

I know what you mean, Soynut. When my dog, Archie had to be put to sleep over 10 years ago (and I had him since I was 14), I cried for weeks and weeks afterwards. I used to sit at my desk at work and start crying. He was my best friend through some rough times. All this time later, I still have his photo in a nice frame in my office. Felíne is here in photos as well but I still miss Archie.

[Soynut]

That's cute you have his picture on your desk TVT.:comfort: Amazing and wonderful how animals can touch our lives. Even if others might not remember them (because they're 'just pets') we will.:smallheart:

[dreamer]

I'm sorry that the one vet wasn't as considerate as he/she should have been. That's the reason I recently changed vets...'cause I had one that I liked, but the rest at the same practice seemed only to care about $. When the nice one left, I switched vets.

I miss many of my furbabies from the past. All of them left me with special memories that I wouldn't take anything for, but also there remains some pain about their loss. I hope you will soon find comfort in the special memories and I am so glad that she still lives in your heart, even during this sad time:comfort:

[Gliondrach]

That vet is scum. Don't let him, her or it spoil your memories of your friend. Put that person out of your mind and be relieved that J-Jay is safe and free from any pain or discomfort. Her body feels nothing now so it doesn't matter about the ground. I believe that she is still alive in another world and you will see her again one day. Our lives here are just a drop in an ocean of eternity. Sometimes when you dream about her it might be more than just a dream.

Be strong for her children and take good care of yourself and them. That's what J-Jay would want.

[Tails4wagging]

A few months after I lost annie I went to a medium and I was not even thinking of her at the time and it wasnt the reason I went to her. Suddenly the medium said, you have had a dog pass over recently, one with a red coat and sad eyes. I was astounded and only said yes. She said she is still with you and under the table near your feet now. She must have loved you a lot.


If it would help, go and see a medium, it may comfort you.

[VeganD]

Thank you for the kind words everyone

When i was reading your post Gliondrach i was close to crying

One vet was alright and the other one was just an ass she wanted to get the job done and on to the next one that’s how it felt for me

What i can’t seem to get my head around is that i paid a stranger $200 to come into my home and kill my dog i know it was because she was in pain but it just doesn’t seem right to me

that’s all these greedy scum want is money cant believe i had to pay that sort of price for someone to come out and do this what kind of people are they, i mean $200 is just a joke but i done it for JJ because the last few days she was really starting to get bad

After the vet put her to sleep i just stood there didn’t even know what just happened i kind of broke down i hugged her body crying out saying please, please, wake up, wake up please, what have i done, but she never did i just couldn’t believe she went so quick the vet walked in and 5 minutes later she was gone

And right now she is in the cold ground outside

Still now i go into a daze just thinking about her

As some of you may remember or not but she had cancer malignant, the vet said because this is now the 3rd time she has had it there is nothing they can do i wanted to get another opinion so that’s what i did and i was told the same thing again, that if i didn’t get her put to sleep she would go in pain and that’s not what i wanted for her




This picture was about an hour before the vet came


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If you view the picture carefully you can actually see her back leg filled with fluid


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I just don’t know what to say i really can’t believe it i just feel so bad for her babies took them about a week to start eating again probably for the first 5-7 days or so they didn’t want to eat

[Bowwowmeow]

She looks beautiful and well-loved in those pictures VeganD. I can see it in her face. You had two choices, both of which would only lead to pain and suffering, for you or for her. You chose to take her suffering away sooner, and bear it yourself instead. I hope you can soon find peace inside yourself and come to terms with your loss. :comfort:

[Gliondrach]

JJ looks like a lovely, friendly dog. You did the right thing. Your decision was based on your love for her. You put her needs before your own. No one could ask for more.

She is not in the cold ground - just her body is. I believe that our bodies are just shells. When we leave them they are dead but we live on.

[dreamer]

She was beautiful, VeganD. I agree with Gliondrach too...I think all my furbabies are still alive in spirit and I will be with them again someday:smallheart:

[Soynut]

What a sweet sweet face.:smallheart: Thank you for posting her picture.

It's so unfortunate that those vets behaved like that. It doesn't matter how many times they've done this, they should always show respect and make the passing as dignified as possible. This should never be routine... and if it is, it's about time to look for a different job. Sorry about your experience, Vegan D.

Someone so close to your heart will never go away, she'll always be with you.

[my3labs]

Yes, thanks for posting her picture. She's a beautiful girl.

[Oracl]

Very beautiful. :smallheart:

[thevegantwins]

She was adorable, VeganD and obviously, well-loved. I agree with Martin as well. She is not in the cold ground, just her body. :smallheart:

[Tails4wagging]

Bless her she looked beautiful and she passed away in the comfort of her own home and with the family she loved. Be proud of that and remember the good times.